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January 27, 2009 Weekly Awards, Parking Lot, and a New Truck!
09:34am by Cheechoo (Site)
Greetings vDreamers! We’ve released our latest parking structure: Charon! It’s our cheapest one yet, and largest in terms of quantity, so don’t be shy! It looks a little dark and grim, but I’m sure your dark cars would look great in there!
Also, we’ve closed the Truck Poll. We had our biggest poll yet, with a total of 8984 votes! The winner is… drumroll… The Dodge SRT-10! The Dodge won with 3523 votes, followed by the Ford Lightning with 2233, then the Chevy Silverado with 1776, and then the GMC Syclone with 1452 (doh!). We’ve started the truck already, and it WILL be out within two weeks. By the way… According to the vDream community, toilet paper should be hanged from the FRONT (6800 votes to 2184).
On to the weekly awards!
Most Active User: Colin Huxted, with 538 Activity points. Colin and his wife are both avid vDreamers, and both have won Most Active user! Congrats!
Most Losses: Pat Brown, with 204 losses. You don’t need the extra cash, but you get it anyway!
Car of the Week: Sven Negrassus, with a very tasteful use of the new tints on a very classy looking Murcielago. Looking great!
Unfortunately, there is some bad news. Our content guy, Cheechoo, got mugged this weekend, and they took his laptop, with ALL VDREAM IMAGES on it. Luckily, most of it was backed up about a month ago. Content will still be pushed out, but we might be a little slow for the next couple of weeks. Sorry in advance!
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January 27, 2009
NO WAY?! cheech got mugged??
haha my captcha is PEEEIG
- 10:13amby Yuriy
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January 27, 2009
woah! that really sucks! was he hurt or anything? u guys should live in brisbane!!! muggings are extremely rare down here!! and the weather is nice :)
and yeh for sure the toilet paper is suposed to be hung the front!! it’s very logical.
- 10:13amby luke van tuyl
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January 27, 2009
please tell me i lost more than Daniel.
- 10:15amby Yuriy
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January 27, 2009
wow yuriy….you are just so sad….
Tell you what….why don’t we find out who lost the most, and then look at who was most active….
- 01:02pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
i hope cheechoo is fine!
- 01:03pmby svenson
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January 27, 2009
damn, sorry Cheechoo, hope everythings is ok.
and congrats to this weeks winners, thats one sick looking lambo…except for the red tint ;)
time to go buy me like 10 bazillion parking spots,lol
- 01:04pmby Robert Rivera Jr
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January 27, 2009
Cheech hope all is well.
- 01:09pmby Karson
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January 27, 2009
i’d love to have ORANGE tint – red was the closest match ;-)
- 01:11pmby svenson
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January 27, 2009
hmm….I love new garage spaces…..
- 01:50pm
by Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
Pink with sliver body are the best, and by best I mean not gay
so sorry to hear that Cheecho….
- 01:53pmby Land Shark
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January 27, 2009
This game needs more cars
- 02:57pmby Rich
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January 27, 2009
ooo….here’s another….
- 03:05pm
by Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
weee new truck sorry about what happened cheechoo
- 03:34pmby AdrianYracheta
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January 27, 2009
nice cars and truck
- 04:01pmby Anonymous
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January 27, 2009
daniel how do u have cf fenders and shtuff for the elise already…i have no parts to choose from for it
- 04:08pmby jack
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January 27, 2009
New part should be coming out really soon for the lotus so keep an eye out Jack!
- 04:15pmby Josh Ferguson
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January 27, 2009
so since the dodge ram srt 10 has the same engine as the viper, will it have the same engine parts?
hopefully : )
- 04:43pmby Chris
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January 27, 2009
How did Pat brown have the most losses? I have 300 and climbing compared to his 204…
- 04:55pmby T
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January 27, 2009
Ok…lots of answers to give out….
Jack….I have the CF because I’m amazing…and because I have access to all of the parts that aren’t released yet
Chris….yep there is already an established aftermarket base with the viper which will make a huge difference in releasing the Ram
T….Are your losses from just this week? Pat’s were just from the past 7 days. If it is an issue of total losses, I kinda have that one wrapped up on my own…with just shy of 5000 losses
- 05:34pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
Hurry hurry! Step right up and beat Juwan Hamilton of Facebook in his Pontiac Solstice. Easy win!!!
http://socialapps.vdream.com/track/user_ins.facebook/23367
Top 50 racer Currently showing as 29
- 07:35pmby Are you really afraid of a Solstice?
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January 27, 2009
Wow. Epic fail vDreamers. You all seriously picked that piece of crap srt? Ive driven one..and it doesnt compare to the Lightning. I bet half of you dont even know the difference between the two.
- 08:33pmby Anonymous
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January 27, 2009
The SRT actually beats the lightning in just about every category. It has a better aftermarket, more power, better track capabilities, and even looks meaner than the “tame’ lightning. You just may not have realized it because you couldn’t figure out how to get the truck out of neutral without an automatic transmission (only available in the quad-cab version)
I’m willing to bet that the majority of the posters on this site do know the difference between the two trucks.
- 08:55pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
And don’t insult my community
- 08:56pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
off the chain
- 08:57pmby lenny
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January 27, 2009
i happen 2 have tha srt-4 with some things and it has 418 hp and i have one in real life and all u haters can go f off!!!!!!!!!!! srt-4’s rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and there faster then ur car so ha!
- 09:12pmby me
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January 27, 2009
well i picked up 4 parking spots and filled one with an elise….cant wait to c what parts are coming for it….hmmm what should my next car be….have a viper, saleen, supra, and elise…..maybe a porsche or two, lol….depends on what this truck looks like as well as its numbers….dang thing is going to be heavy tho….
- 10:15pmby Stephen Adamek
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January 27, 2009
im thinking ill end up picking up a GT3, GTR, R8 and possibly an M3 at some point in time, for no other reason than I like the way they look, but ill need to save up a considerable amount of money before I do anything like that, lol….and heck by that time, VDream may have come out with even more cars that id like to have
- 10:20pmby Stephen Adamek
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January 27, 2009
“The SRT actually beats the lightning in just about every category. It has a better aftermarket, more power, better track capabilities, and even looks meaner than the “tame’ lightning. You just may not have realized it because you couldn’t figure out how to get the truck out of neutral without an automatic transmission (only available in the quad-cab version)
I’m willing to bet that the majority of the posters on this site do know the difference between the two trucks.”
straight pwnge on the post right before that one well done daniel
- 10:23pmby Yuriy
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January 27, 2009
I don’t tolerate “anonymous” bullying. If you are going to flame another vehicle…use your own name. And discuss it. Don’t burn people for liking a car.
And for the record, there is a spot in my fleet for the Ram
- 10:30pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 27, 2009
sweet my truck is here! And sry to hear about cheech hope he is ok. Oh and 2 new spots are now waiting on cars!
- 10:44pmby Joe
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January 27, 2009
Well I’m definatly not happy with the Dodge winning, but oh well! There’s nothing I can do, but take some easy wins from the Dodge owners in my S7! LoL
- 11:01pmby LXS
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January 27, 2009
Being that LIjen and company and somewhat “known” for throwing in a “wild card” vehicle, I sure hope that you guys can add the Lightening into the mix to give the Dodge some good competition!
- 11:02pmby LXS
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January 27, 2009
2004 FORD SVT LIGHTNING VS. 2004 DODGE RAM SRT-10
Recent test results published in Car and Driver on the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 appear to challenge the superiority of the 2004 SVT F-150 Lightning as the benchmark performance pickup. The SRT-10 was tested at 0.3 of a second quicker to 60 mph, 0.2 of a second faster in the 1/4 mile with a 1 mph higher trap speed, and hit a 6 mph higher top speed. So, is the SRT-10 the new king of the sport trucks? Maybe in magazine-land, where price is no object, you never need to tow anything, and you don’t pay for gas. In the REAL world, however, Lightning still rules. Here’s why: .....
Check out the link if you really wanna know why LoL
http://www.anderson-ford.com/lightningvsram.htm
- 11:13pmby LXS
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January 27, 2009
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/03-Lightning-vs-05-SRT10_90882.htm
- 11:28pmby LXS
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January 27, 2009
hm, well SRT-10 has more hp, more torque, bigger engine, (8.3 vs 5.4), and faster top speed.
- 11:54pmby Yuriy
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January 27, 2009
“UPGRADABILITY: There are lots of performance parts currently available for the SVT F-150 Lightning, and its supercharged engine provides a great platform for modifications. “
ha ha they don’t even address the fact that the Ram has MORE upgrades available. There are NO 1000+ hp Lightnings out there….
You should also note that the link is to a FORD DEALERSHIP who added their own data at the end. They factor in the cost of tires and towing capability for crying out loud…
“So, is the SRT-10 the new king of the sport trucks? Maybe in magazine-land, where price is no object, you never need to tow anything, and you don’t pay for gas.”
ha ha welcome to vDream-land….where we just care about putting the rubber to the road and ripping the asphalt apart…
- 11:56pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 28, 2009
can we get both the ram and the lightning?
- 12:04amby Chris D
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January 28, 2009
Today
can we get both the ram and the lightning?
- 12:04am
by Chris D
That’s what I’m sayin! I take it you LIKE my link huh Daniel! LoL I threw it up just to stir the pot a lil! haha :D
The Lightning doesn’t need 1000hp, just with a pulley change and exhaust, it’ll SMOKE a stock 500hp SRT-10 Ram! Don’t believe me? Well then WHY does the SRT-10 just BARELY beat the Lightning in the 1/4 when compared stock for stock? All the Lightening needs is an extra 50hp to practically tie the SRT-10 in the 1/4 mile! Add another 50hp on top of that and it’ll BEAT the SRT-10! :D
- 12:13amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
but…in vDream land….the stockers get destroyed. You can get a lightning and put another 100 hp into and I’ll be happy to race against you with my 1000hp Ram…just let me know when…
- 12:21amby Daniel- VDPD
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January 28, 2009
LMFAO!!!!!! You’re too funny Daniel!!! So…you say that there “aren’t” any 1000hp Lightnings? Check this bitch out!!!!
(just in case the vid doesn’t show, here’s the link…)
http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i45/n8dogg22/?action=view¤t=twinturbobuild283.flv
- 12:26amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
I’d be MORE then happy to get a Lightning, just tell me where in vDream I can get one, or heck, just GIVE ME ONE!!!!! hahahahhaha :D When you help me get a Lightning in vDream (or real life, cause I’d LOVE one!!!), I’ll DEFINATLY hit you up!!!
- 12:28amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
thats pretty cool. Thats a nice run on the dyno. The only reason that won’t make it into the app is because it is a custom, one-off build. Not a “production” aftermarket.
And don’t hold your breath on the lightning making it into the app- We are just doing the Ram. No surprises this time.
- 12:54amby Daniel- VDPD
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January 28, 2009
Haha watch your comments, Ram people. They’re both phenomenal trucks and I think the Ram is a fine addition, but the simple fact is that the Lightning is an easier car to upgrade. Only when you get to expensive modding (aka turbochargers) does the Ram get faster when upgraded. And there SO are 1000hp lightnings out there… possibly even more than the Rams! Just because Hennessey makes a kit and Hennessey is all famous and every car kid knows about them, it doesn’t mean they sell a ton of them. This app is very magazine- and pop-culture- centric, which is not a problem for me really, but it’s not a perfect reflection of the real world.
- 01:25amby Peter Bernacchi
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January 28, 2009
Nicely said Peter! :)
- 01:35amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
There are 1000 hp cars by just about every vehicle make out there. It just takes money and R&D. Almost anything is a possibilty anymore.
- 01:45amby Rob
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January 28, 2009
We all know that Rob, but what we were saying was based upon what was said by Daniel a little while ago :)
- 01:51amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
I know lol..but he said that there were NO 1000+ hp svts..i mean come on with a solid build-up of a 5.4L its easily attainable. Its becoming common place for 1000 hp builds on motors with half that displacement.
- 01:57amby Rob
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January 28, 2009
That’s very true! Technology is making it super easy to make HUGE hp on smaller engines! I’ll still choose a V8 over anything smaller tho! LoL :D ...unless it’s a Gran Nash! OMG!!! :drool: hahah :D
- 02:06amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
i say screw trucks but it is good to have some variety on Vdream. How about racing bikes next?
- 02:14amby Danny
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January 28, 2009
Sorry cheech =^( Hope everything gets sorted pretty quickly.
Got my 2 spaces. Hopefully I can snag some more before they all disappear
- 02:17amby Jay
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January 28, 2009
Today
i say screw trucks but it is good to have some variety on Vdream. How about racing bikes next?
- 02:14am
by Danny
I vote for the ‘09 Ninja ZX-14!!!!!!!! :drool: :rockon:
- 02:20amby LXS
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January 28, 2009
go to youtube and look up “lightning vs ram SRT-10” and all you ram fans will more than likely start to cry
- 02:24amby SDH
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January 28, 2009
You guys are nuts ha ha. I’m not arguing a point at all. I mainly wanted to point out LXS’s retarded link to a Ford Dealership that included stuff like towing capacity, baby monitors, and cupholders in the comparison.
NO MOTORCYCLES
- 02:37amby Daniel- VDPD
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January 28, 2009
i say yess to motorcylces and no to the lighting all together
- 02:46amby shane
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January 28, 2009
Gas+breaks+dyno+record+again!Autosalon+Melbourne - 03:52amby Anonymous
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January 28, 2009
I know that it isn’t critical for racing, but can we have grill modification for the Ram and any other future truck?
- 04:46amby Juwan Hamilton
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January 28, 2009
1285 hp…. supra???
hell I’d keep that all the way to the top bring on the Saleen
- 05:14amby Land Shark
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January 28, 2009
the losing supra
now if only this was 1285hp maybe i could get some wins lol
- 07:18amby Pat Brown
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January 28, 2009
no problem with bikes in vdream. as long as:
- they are only allowed in endurance (multiple chances of overtaking) - all cars must have a cowcatcher installed when racing a bike - damage system (only for bike drivers)
- 08:38amby svenson
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January 28, 2009
I dig all the discussion on the Lightning vs. Ram stuff! This is why we built this website – for people to discuss cars in an adult manner, respecting everyone’s opinions and talking, instead of flaming. I’m one of the vDreamers who knows nothing about either car. That’s why I have Daniel, Yuriy, and Josh to help me build it out.
And as for bikes – eventually. But not for a long while. There would have to be the system of separating bikes and cars, and it’s not in the works. Bikes would obliterate cars in the straights. If a STOCK hayabusa can easily get into the 9’s, then imagine what 10,000 vDollars worth of aftermarket goodies will do to it! That would be like a, what, 30,000 vDollar vehicle being the fastest car on vDream? Craziness! But it’s definitely not out of the big picture for vDream.
- 11:24amby Cheechoo
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January 28, 2009
YAAAAY 5000!!!
losses….
Cheechoo has spoken…..let it be done
- 12:15pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 28, 2009
VDPD Mustang. so perfect.
- 01:22pm
by Yuriy
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January 28, 2009
Ha ha that looks more like one of those lame D.A.R.E vehicles you see driving around…did you guys ever have one of those?
I would say that just the white doors would be enough to make it a cop car
- 01:35pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 28, 2009
ford – fucked over rebuilt dodge – found on road dead – fucked on race day – for only retarded drivers – driver returns on foot
- 01:42pmby Anonymous
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January 28, 2009
See this is the good part about this site we can discuss or likes and dislikes about any car. Just like the SRT and SVT but when push comes to shove you have a N/A motor vs a supercharged motor. This gives the SRT much more of a chance to be upgraded and made a hell of alot faster. I think me and LXS had a great discussion on this topic a while back when the polls first started on trucks. Throw the same supercharger on the Ram that is on the Lighting and see what the numbers turn out to be. Thats why there is no replacement for displacement.
- 02:57pmby Joe
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January 28, 2009
That looks cool – French flag mustang!
- 03:54pmby Cheechoo
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January 28, 2009
ford – fucked over rebuilt dodge – found on road dead – fucked on race day – for only retarded drivers – driver returns on foot
- 08:44pm
i agree, ford made some nice vehicles here and there, but overall fords suck :)
no offence ford fansby shane
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January 28, 2009
2004 FORD SVT LIGHTNING VS. 2004 DODGE RAM SRT-10
Recent test results published in Car and Driver on the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 appear to challenge the superiority of the 2004 SVT F-150 Lightning as the benchmark performance pickup. The SRT-10 was tested at 0.3 of a second quicker to 60 mph, 0.2 of a second faster in the 1/4 mile with a 1 mph higher trap speed, and hit a 6 mph higher top speed. So, is the SRT-10 the new king of the sport trucks? Maybe in magazine-land, where price is no object, you never need to tow anything, and you don’t pay for gas. In the REAL world, however, Lightning still rules. Here’s why: .....
Check out the link if you really wanna know why LoL
http://www.anderson-ford.com/lightningvsram.htm - 11:13pm
by LXS
OWNED. Final verdict: Ford=high hp Truck Dodge=high hp GROCERY GETTER.
“no offence ford fans” - 08:44pm
by shane
-Yeah right.
Ive personally never seen a dodge,or chevy for that matter consistently outlast a Ford vehicle. My 87 F250 has 290K, 87 TBird has 239k, and 02 F250 119K. Too bad Chrysler is too busy trying to figure out how to cheapen their vehicles to mak it out of debt than make a quality vehicle like Ford.
- 09:53pmby Kale
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January 28, 2009
Step Right Up and Challenge Me I never Chicken Out Please Challenge!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://socialapps.vdream.com/track/user_ins.facebook/80229
I dont drive a lambo or S7 so dont worry come and challenge me please!!!
- 10:46pmby Floris Bouman - Facebook
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January 29, 2009
Hey Floris Bouman, what’s your rank on the leaderboard? That way those of us on Myspace can send challenges your way :)
- 12:29amby LXS
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January 29, 2009
What’s with the cheap commercials??
Anyway, #10 on the leaderboard, an R8. Think you have what it takes to beat me? Prove it!
- 01:48amby Dann182
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January 29, 2009
Forgot to add, I usually challenge back.
- 01:51amby Dann182
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January 29, 2009
What’s with people stealing my add campaign? I accept all challenges in my Pontiac slow Solstice. Challenge me!!! #29 on the leaderboard. http://socialapps.vdream.com/track/user_ins.facebook/23367
- 02:07amby Juwan Hamilton
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January 29, 2009
yay props to me for thinking of bikes on Vdream :P
- 05:18amby Danny
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January 29, 2009
is there any way to sell a car in a different parking garage? i dont want the parking lot or car in it anymore.
- 05:19amby cg
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January 29, 2009
Q. What is the difference between a Ford and a tampon? A. A tampon comes with it’s own towe rope.
Q. Why are the latest Fords so aerodynamically designed? A. It improves the Chevy towe truck’s fuel consumption I was driving my Ford truck down the road When I realised it was gonna explode The Ford motor blew up in my face So I put a Chevy motor in it’s place I drove that truck until the body pannels rusted away But that old Chevy motor still runs to this day.
Ashes to ashes Dust to dust If it wasn’t for Fords Our tools would rust
Buy a Ford Buy the best Drive a mile Walk the rest
- 06:23amby Anonymous
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January 29, 2009
Id refer to that truck as built ford tough with chevy’s stuff…but honestly I love fords designs for the most part, but I prefer chevy’s engines and whole drive trains….with the exception of the all mighty ford 9” rear end, lol…..and in keeping in what seems to be the new wave… anyone want to send some callenges my way, lol, maxed out supra, but doesnt really win that often unfortunately…..http://socialapps.vdream.com/track/user_ins.facebook/36752
- 06:40amby Stephen Adamek
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January 29, 2009
GREETINGS FROM SYDNEY!!! sorry to hear about cheechoo getting mugged, is he alright? muggers are the worst, worser than thieves. u should live in vancouver cheech!
really great veiw from my hotel room! i can see both harbour bridge and opera house really clearly. and to would-be sydney tourists a tip: dont go to darling harbour unless ur watching strippers, going to a casino or to the aquarium.
- 07:36amby tao li
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January 29, 2009
We’re currently performing surgery on vDream. We will be back shortly. that made me lol be careful with sewing vdream back up lawl
- 08:25amby AdrianYracheta
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January 29, 2009
I’d go to Darling Harbour to watch the strippers, and go to the aquarium.
- 09:38amby Cheechoo
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January 29, 2009
haha tao! darling doesn’t have a dodgy rep for no reason!! and on that note you might wanna stay away from king’s cross,lol!!
are you in North Sydney? cause i stayed there and had a view just like u described. check out luna park, it’s kinda lame but it’s iconic, ya gotta do it if u wanna call yourself a tourist..
- 09:41amby luke van tuyl
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January 29, 2009
LOL yeh what’s wrong with those things?
- 09:42amby luke van tuyl
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January 29, 2009
Is it just me or has vDream been down for about 4 hours?
- 12:12pmby Dann182
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January 29, 2009
all morning, noon and afternoon i tried to login to vdream without success. best result was to see the pitstop page, but i couldn’t even fillup my viper before the server became unresponsive again. i hope this day won’t count for vdi LOL
- 02:09pmby svenson
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January 29, 2009
I’ve managed a fill up and accepting 3 challenges, but that’s all.
It’s a heck of a way to keep the VDI inflation under control.
- 02:37pmby Dann182
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January 29, 2009
dann you beast!
- 03:05pmby svenson
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January 29, 2009
Is vDream still down for everyone else too?
- 03:39pmby Joe
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January 29, 2009
Yes. They are doing some extensive server and coding work. Hopefully it will be up soon, but Lijen is working really hard on it right now.
- 05:29pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 29, 2009
yep :-(
- 05:30pmby svenson
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January 29, 2009
Man if it wasnt for Lijen this app would suck! Good thing we have him and his dedication to the game! THANKS LIJEN!!!
- 06:03pmby Joe
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January 29, 2009
yeah dude Vdream is still down /:
- 08:45pmby shane
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January 29, 2009
yep, still down for me too, but I know they will get things worked out for everyone, cant wait, I was bummed this morning b4 going to work, I always check and refil my car, but I couldnt, I was worried at first that I would run outta gas while at work, so Im actually a little relieved that its still down this afternoon now that Im back home, lmao
- 09:12pmby Stephen Adamek
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January 29, 2009
Looks like vDream is back up and running! I was able to get in, fill up my car, accept a few challenges, and check out my rankings :)
- 09:29pmby LXS
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January 29, 2009
I don’t get it? Why are people such huge ass PUSSIES!!?? They talk all this shit about how Ford sucks, bla bla bla, etc. Yet, they’re too fucking scared to put their name up, what’s up with that???
- 09:31pmby LXS
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January 29, 2009
LXS i have an answer cause deeep deep down they drive fords and they don’t want anyone to know
- 09:42pmby JP
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January 29, 2009
hey guys whats w the poor etiquette?
- 09:46pmby Scott Villeneuve
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January 29, 2009
are mods allowed ot talk like that…j/k
- 09:46pmby karson
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January 29, 2009
so since the dodge ram srt 10 has the same engine as the viper, will it have the same engine parts? so what about the weight of the truck?? it’s going to be to heavy to race anything in it’s hp class? You should have pick two trucks????
- 09:53pmby mont
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January 29, 2009
I totally agree with you mont! That’s why I was wondering the other day if the Lightning would pop up later on as a “wild card,” that way it’ll compete with (and beat the shit out of) the SRT-10 Ram! Even WITH 1000hp (which’ll never happen on this game….mainly because the Viper would also have to get that same upgrade), that truck will be stuck in the 10s all day long!!!! It’s gonna need a good truck to compete with! Hopefully somewhere along the line the Lightning will make it’s way onto the game :) If not, it’s just gonna get it’s ass handed to it by all the Vettes, Vipers and S7s!
- 10:50pmby LXS
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January 29, 2009
are mods allowed ot talk like that…j/k - 09:46pm
by karson
What mods?
- 10:53pmby Yuriy
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January 29, 2009
Yeah….I’m pretty sure that Josh, Yuriy, and I said nothing of derogatory nature.
- 11:12pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 29, 2009
i was talking about the feud thats goin on that starting to annoy me but idk wat karson is talkin about
- 11:29pmby Scott Villeneuve
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January 30, 2009
haha its all just some car discussion. Pretty sure no one takes anything personally! The whole reason why all of us are here is because we enjoy cars!
- 12:32amby Josh Ferguson
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January 30, 2009
OMG, dont you guys ever go down for so long again, i had been wanting to sign into my account all day and couldnt because i guess you guys weere workingon the servers or something…..i say we should all get a bonus item or 5k for having to wait so long to logg back in so we can play our beloved game
- 01:17amby Robert Rivera Jr
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January 30, 2009
“See this is the good part about this site we can discuss or likes and dislikes about any car. Just like the SRT and SVT but when push comes to shove you have a N/A motor vs a supercharged motor. This gives the SRT much more of a chance to be upgraded and made a hell of alot faster. I think me and LXS had a great discussion on this topic a while back when the polls first started on trucks. Throw the same supercharger on the Ram that is on the Lighting and see what the numbers turn out to be. Thats why there is no replacement for displacement.”
ARRRGGH this is what I’m talking about. No offense, but that’s generally an ignorant statement, even though it seems correct. It’s like saying 5 times 2 is bigger than 4 times 3, because 5 is bigger than 4 OR 3. You have to realize that installation of forced induction on a N/A motor is not exactly easy. Modifying an already supercharged engine is pretty easy in general, plus the motor has been built from the factory to be boosted. An example: the 4G63 motor from the Evo I-IX (among others). It makes around 300 horsepower out of a 2.0L turbocharged 4-cyl. Compare to the VQ35DE motor from the 350Z (among others). Makes similar power out of a 3.5L N/A 6-cyl. With your logic, this motor has more potential to make power. In THEORY, yes, but in practice, no. vDream is pretty much street cars, so put $2,000 in the engine of both those cars in real life, and almost always the 4G63 will be making more power. There are FAAAAR more 1000+hp evos than there are 1000+hp 350Zs at the moment.
And stop the anti-Ford jingles, they don’t even use a logical arguments to rip on FoMoCo, it’s just flippin retarded.
- 01:46amby Peter Bernacchi
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January 30, 2009
Peter, you are absolutely right… in most cases. Between these two, the SRT has a bit of an end-result advantage, if you will, in that it has three extra liters of diplacement.
And part of the reason you see few 1000+ VQs is because their aluminum block has problems with over about 15lbs of boost.
- 03:38amby Chris
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January 30, 2009
hey anyone want to send a track challenge my way? i just wanna see how my lotus holds up on the track and get a baseline, any car will be fine, not looking for a win nessecarily, just a track time, lol
http://socialapps.vdream.com/track/user_ins.facebook/36752
and on the SRT vs SVT discussion, honestly Id drive both trucks, Im not a huge fan of trucks any more, but I am a fan of power, and both trucks have exactly that, in spades none the less. I will be interested to see what the ram ends up like in the game, and if nothing else it will be a decent addition to many of our garages, and to others it will be another vehicle they can get an easy win from, lol
- 05:07amby Stephen Adamek
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January 30, 2009
Yep, displacement is always good in original engine building. If you disassembled the two cars, took only the hunk of metal that is the block, and completely re-engineered the cars from that point on to have forced induction, the Viper motor would be more powerful. Now, that would cost millions upon millions of dollars in R&D, which is not the vDream thing, so the world in between THAT and a bolt-on exhaust is a very vague thing as far as superiority.
- Yeah I’m personally not a truck guy, they’re sorta fun in a bashing power way but have nothing on something like a MR2, S2000, or Alfa Spider, I like to toss my car around corners. I LOOOVE bench racing though :)
- 05:21amby Peter Bernacchi
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January 30, 2009
see i love drag racing and i love auto cross as well, i much prefer my german sports car…who needs luggage space, lol…although it would come in handy at times, but being able to hug the road and not have that annoying thing called body roll is deffinately something im willing to sacrifice some luggage capacity for
- 05:24amby Stephen Adamek
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January 30, 2009
Yesterday
haha tao! darling doesn’t have a dodgy rep for no reason!! and on that note you might wanna stay away from king’s cross,lol!!
are you in North Sydney? cause i stayed there and had a view just like u described. check out luna park, it’s kinda lame but it’s iconic, ya gotta do it if u wanna call yourself a tourist..
- 09:41am
by luke van tuyl Yesterday
LOL yeh what’s wrong with those things?
- 09:42am
by luke van tuyl
reply to 1st post: ive been watching the news! bar fights among highschool students in kings cross.
reply to 2nd post:wats wrong with that is because i cant sit inside so, i have to wait for mom and dad to come out either in the blistering heat or the blistering cold depending on if they decided to go during day or night
- 12:37pmby Tao Ding Ning Li (FB)
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January 30, 2009
oh btw im back!, photos would be on fb in the next week or so
- 12:37pmby Tao Ding Ning Li (FB)
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January 30, 2009
Peter,
You cant be serious? Most superchargers these days are bolt on parts. Vortec, Kenne Bell and Pro Charger are designed to be mounted and used (with low boost at first) to stock or N/A motors. Now if you dont want problems in the future a few more things should be done i.e. rods and pistons. However with a Viper motor which stock can handle near a thousand horses there is no competition between the 8 cylinder mustang motor and the 10 cylinder viper motor. Also if you start messing with the stock blower on the SVT your going to have to do the same upgrades as you will have to do to a N/A motor to ensure full stability. Point being Ford had to add on 8 PSI through the Eaton blower to make up for the lack of cylinders. Ill say it again the SRT beats it in all aspects, look at car and drivers write up on the two. Now take the same trucks and add forced induction onto the bigger motor guess what happens? Thats right a much faster truck now. So you saying my statement was ignorant that there is no replacement for displacement is in fact an ignorant statement on your part.
- 02:53pmby Joe
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January 30, 2009
Oh and your little run off on Evo’s and 350Zs is another problem. The Evo was built knowing that the Turbo was going to be its power source not the motor itself. Pop that turbo off and you have a seriously underpowered car that cant move out of its own way. If your not in the turbos power range even with it on the car still cant accelerate quickly. You need to know your turbo and its power range if you want full potential. Get an inexperienced driver behind the wheel like most people who own them are and the car is worthless. At least with the N/A 350Z when you put ur foot down you know whats going to happen.
- 03:02pmby Joe
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January 30, 2009
I totally agree with you Joe. If we were comparing the Lightning’s 5.4L and Dodge’s V-10 on an engine dyno, and both motors were built to the max, yeah, the V-10 is gonna win hands down when it comes to peak power. But that’s not what this game is about! There are no engine dyno competitions here, just brut strength balls to wall 1/4 mile (yeah, and those other two form of racing), racing! If you were to compare total average power and torque, then that’s a whole completely different story! Just because a motor has more peak horsepower, doesn’t mean it’s superior, or better then the motor next to it. But anyway, that’s a conversation for another day.
And just to clarify, the 5.4L engine in the Lightning is NOT a Mustang motor! They are two completely different engines! Yes, a 5.4L engine did come out in a Mustang (the 2000 Cobra R), but it is not supercharged like the Lightning, the engine specs are not the same, and the Cobra R engine was a 4V unlike the Lightning’s 2V.
The thing about the whole Lightning vs. SRT Ram is, Ford built this truck knowing that it DIDN’T need some huge motor to do it’s job. Yeah sure, there’s no replacement for displacement, but bigger isn’t always better! Ford knew that it could build a smaller V-8 (when compared to the other car brands), slap on supercharger, and it’d be able to to do the job (and better) with a whole lot less stress on the motor then a bigger N/A motor could! The more radical a motor becomes, the less reliable it becomes when you’re talking about everyday daily driven vehicles.
Then, if you want to get into adding boost to the SRT-10, there’s no way in hell it’ll be able to handle as much boost as the Lightning! Why you ask? Well first off, check out the SRT-10’s compression ratio. It’s at a pretty damn good 9.6:1 compression ratio! It’s GREAT for a street motor, and it’ll handle almost anything your right food can throw at it. Now, let’s look at the Lightning’s compression. It checks in at 8.4:1! That’s OVER one whole point in compression LESS then the SRT-10, which means it’ll EASILY handle 12-15lbs of boost…and with ease! You try squeezing 15lbs into a motor that has 9.6:1 compression, and all I gotta say is GOOD LUCK!!! Yeah, it’ll take it, then it’ll blow up! I don’t care how many cylinders you have, if your compression isn’t set up to handle big boost, that engine will NOT survive! That bone stock SRT-10 can’t handle anything north of 7lbs! If I’m wrong, go check out www.viperalley.com and look for yourself! The owners themselves have admitted to that! If you want more boost, you HAVE to have that motor built stronger to handle it! Now let’s take a look at the Lightning. In STOCK boost form, it pushes out 9lbs of boost (give or take a half pound depending on weather conditions, i.e. hot air vs. cold air)! JUST with a pulley change, the boost can jump up to 12-16lbs of boost!!! Of course, boost varies on which size upper/lower pulley you have, tune, and bolt ons :) Personally, I could care less whether or not the SRT-10 has two extra cylinders (which it NEEDS just to compete with a much SMALLER V8 hahaha), bigger displacement, and it pushing out 500hp. That motor isn’t going to do ANYTHING in a 5,200lbs pig of a truck! Just look at the Hennessy site. That truck NEEDS a stroker kit, forged internals, etc., JUST to hit a 10.3 on the 1/4 mile! There are plenty of Lightnings out there with a whole lot less work done to their trucks (and less money!), and they’re running 10s to!
I’m not trying to talk down on people who like the SRT-10. If you like it, then kool, more power to you! Just don’t run your mouth like it’s the “best” truck in the world, cause no matter what car, motor, or amount of cylinders you’ve got, there’s ALWAYS someone faster! :)
- 06:53pmby LXS
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January 30, 2009
LXS,
I do believe your last line was the last line I gave to you from our other discussion. What im trying to say by my last rant was that when you have a motor built for a stock supercharger and a motor built for N/A. No matter which way you look at it head to head the “pig of a truck” beats the SVT. Oh and if you look at the new Viper motors (which are the same viper motors) with a higer compression ratio, 10.2, they are pushing 600 horses. You need the higher compression to push the higher horses! If you want to save a motor and make somewhat near the same horse power put on the blower or the turbo because that is where the motor gets its power from. Take that off and its a normal Triton V8 pushing 300hp and of course you can do a pulley swap but guess what once you do that your gonna run into the same problems with the internals if you put a supercharger onto the SRT. Its all relative! You have to look at the base model then go from there. As for this game it is about balls to the wall which is why overall the V-10 will take it. Add some mods and add weight reduction without the worry of blowing an engine (which is a possibility in any highly modded vehicle) and having those two extra cylinders works to your advantage. Im still not talking down to you but your looking at it in the wrong way. With this game its all about numbers not true performance.
- 07:29pmby Joe
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January 30, 2009
Oh and read through this whole report from Truck Trend and see what professionals think of these two.
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pickup/163_0407_2004_ford_dodge_truck/index.html
- 07:37pmby Joe
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January 30, 2009
I think you missed one of my posts after which addresses some of your comments, but yeah. What I was trying to say is that you can make a quick and immediate jump in power on the Lightning with something like a pulley, which is super cheap and simple. I still think the lightning motor is more powerful with LIMITED money, and with unlimited (or significantly more) money the SRT motor will be better. Just cause they have “bolt-on” forced induction for sale doesn’t mean it’s easy to do in your garage in an afternoon.
And, ohh, I know my Evos. I’ve also driven plenty of Z’s (they’re nice, pretty straight-forward sports cars). Here’s a nice quote by Carroll Shelby: “Son, if you get turbo lag, you ain’t driving it right.” Look it up. Yeah, the Evo has NO power without the turbo. Why wouldn’t you have one? Our discussion is about higher-than-stock levels, the Evo motor has been designed from day one to be boosted, like the Lightning was. Once my LICP popped off (effectively unhooking the turbocharger) in my Evo IX on a high boost run at about 70mph, and all my power died. I topped out at 32mph until I wrenched that f*er back on my FMIC (didn’t have the tools out on the road that day) :-P
- 07:58pmby Peter Bernacchi
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January 30, 2009
Peter,
Very understandable problem you had. Thats what i was trying to say cars and trucks that come stock with power boosts are designed from the ground up to be using the full potential of that turbo/supercharger. But like i was saying if you have a car/truck that is already beating you with an N/A motor how can anyone argue that with a turbo/supercharger added on your stock car with the turbo/supercharger isnt going to get beaten that much worse?
- 08:04pmby Joe
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January 30, 2009
Yeah, F/I on the Viper motor will beat the Lightning motor generally, but not everybody has the pockets to drop 5 figures in their cars to send off to Hennessey. The Lightning can be made to perform higher than the stock Viper motor for MUCH less than the twin turbo kit’s cost.
Re-reading this, I think we’re arguing over differences in what vDream should represent, lol. I personally think vDream should embody the average modifier’s life… you have only so much money, you need to make the most of it. I suppose this is up to the admins.
- 08:18pmby Peter Bernacchi
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January 30, 2009
But if that was the case the Lambo, Porsche, Saleen, hell even most of the turbo and supercharger kits need to be removed. Thats what is so great about this game is that we can see the top end kits put on these cars instead of cheaper everyday kits. As for real life fine ill break and say for the money the SVT can be modded faster and more easily but as for final numbers and times with the same upgrades the SRT IMO will still take the cake
- 08:32pmby Joe
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January 31, 2009
Well, again, if you want to say “top end”, I’ll say I’ll install the setup on Amit Bhakta’s MkIV supra that makes 1622rwhp (roughly 1780 crank horsepower), or whatever ungodly amount of power that anybody has done in a first-gen Camaro, I’m not a domestic guy so I don’t exactly know, but it’s huge. I’ll also add that it’s friday night and I’m hammered on vodka, beer, and whiskey/coke and stuff. I can only type right cause on posts like this you can go back and correct your bullshit.
But YES, final uprgades, the SRT WILL take the cake, I’ve agreed with that all the time, it’s just a bigger fuckin’ motor, dude. In my opinion, vDream is still dealing with medium-power kits, there are a TON of RX7’s, STi’s, and Camaros well beyond their vDream power limits in real life. I’m too lazy/drunk to find more examples.
- 06:45amby Peter Bernacchi
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January 31, 2009
OMFG! if u really want to argue, dont argue here! can you see its called Post A Comment? its a comment box ok? not a debating arena.
- 07:13amby Tao Ding Ning Li (FB)
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January 31, 2009
Duuuuuuuuude, we need some S7 parts! My Saleen makes me sad, its too stock.
- 07:33amby TJeezy
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January 31, 2009
Well, mister tao ding ning li, where shall we debate? Can we come over to your mom’s house and have a debate?
- 08:53amby Peter Bernacchi, still drunk
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January 31, 2009
If you get a parking sturcture, and Also another car. can u race both per day, or is it the “account” that gets maxed out at 15 drag, 5 track and 1 enduro race?
- 04:43pmby Nickle22
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January 31, 2009
The “account” is limited
- 06:44pmby Daniel- VDPD
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January 31, 2009
Hey Joe, what do you do for a living? You don’t by any chance happen to be in the arts, are you? Cause you sure do know how to dance! Being that you danced around all my facts pretty damn good LoL
LXS,
I do believe your last line was the last line I gave to you from our other discussion.
Just because you may have said it, doesn’t mean you came up with it. That saying has been around for years!!!! LoL
What im trying to say by my last rant was that when you have a motor built for a stock supercharger and a motor built for N/A. No matter which way you look at it head to head the “pig of a truck” beats the SVT. *Huh? Those two sentences don’t make sense! You start off talking about comparing two motors, one built for boost and another N/A, then you stop. Then you continue by saying the Ram beats the SVT. Again, that makes no sense whatsoever! Anyways….
Oh and if you look at the new Viper motors (which are the same viper motors) with a higer compression ratio, 10.2, they are pushing 600 horses. You need the higher compression to push the higher horses!
WTF?? How can something be new, yet be the same? Doesn’t make any sense! So what do the “new” Viper motors in the Viper have to do with the V-10 in the 2003-2004 Ram? That “new” motor isn’t in the 2003-2004 Ram, so what was the point in bringing that useless info up? And if you want to talk about higher compression ratios, going from 9.6:1 C/R to 10.2 is NOT a huge difference! Going .6 of a point in C/R *might gain you an additional 10hp, IF that! The average gain in hp per FULL point in compression is roughly 4%! That “new” Viper motor isn’t even at one full point. Raising compression on a motor does NOT mean “huge” gains! If you want to truely benefit from using higher compression, the whole combination of the motor must complement and work with that compression, or else you’ll have done it for nothing!
If you want to save a motor and make somewhat near the same horse power put on the blower or the turbo because that is where the motor gets its power from.
It’s not a matter of “saving” a motor. Its the difference between building a N/A motor that has to work HARDER, vs. a smaller motor that can work EASIER, more efficent, reliable, and do the work a bigger motor can do with ease!
Take that off and its a normal Triton V8 pushing 300hp
What’s your point? Obviously taking off the supercharger is going to affect a motor’s performace, so why even mention it?
and of course you can do a pulley swap but guess what once you do that your gonna run into the same problems with the internals if you put a supercharger onto the SRT. Its all relative!
LMFAO!!!!!!!! Doing a simple pulley swap is NOT going to mess up the Lightning’s motor! Going from it’s stock 9lbs of boost to 12-15lbs is NOT gonna break it!!! You’re too funny man! I give ya credit for that! :D A bad tune CAN break a motor, but that’s a conversation for another day. But going from no boost whatsoever on a Viper motor to anything north of 6-7lbs WILL break that Viper engine! There’s no doubt about that!
You have to look at the base model then go from there.
The base model? What are you talking about? I’m talking about what comes in the Lightning and SRT Ram stock, not their base models.
As for this game it is about balls to the wall which is why overall the V-10 will take it.
LMFAO!!!! Again, that’s another helluva funny statement you got going there! hahahahahaha This game, is controlled by whatever the creators want to do! Not us! Heck, if they want, they can make our 800+hp cars run 15s on the quarter mile all day long! And “balls to the wall which is why the V-10 will take it,” there you go again! Bench racing and basically talking about comparing engines on a dyno! Too funny! On an engine dyno, comparing a smaller motor to a bigger motor with both motors being built to the max, yes, the bigger motor will make more peak hp/tq. But slap that bigger motor into a car or truck that is too heavy for it’s own good, and that bigger motor isn’t gonna do much but barely beat the lighter vehicle next to it with a smaller motor.
Add some mods and add weight reduction without the worry of blowing an engine (which is a possibility in any highly modded vehicle) and having those two extra cylinders works to your advantage.
LMFAO!!! How do “add” weight reduction! hahahah I’m sorry, I know what you meant, but it just looked funny! LoL :D
But seriously, WHEN has weight have anything to do with blowing a motor?? That statement makes no sense whatsoever!!!! Having more weight will make a vehicle slower, and having less weight will make it faster, there’s nothing else to it! It has nothing to do with whether or not a motor will blow! Having those two extra cylinders mean MORE weight, a heavier block, and taking more of a chance of breaking that big ass crank of yours! ;)
Im still not talking down to you but your looking at it in the wrong way.
How can you be talking down to me when you’re looking up? LoL ;) :D So, how am I looking at it the wrong way? Please, enlighten me! :)
With this game its all about numbers not true performance.- 07:29pm
by Joe
I cannot even begin to tell you how WRONG you are on sooooo many levels! If this game truely was about numbers and NOT performance, the S7 would NOT lose ANY races whatsoever! Yet, somehow, Vipers AND Vettes still beat it every now and then! So, please, this game is NOT about numbers! Lijen and Cheechoo have stated many many many times that they’re trying to make this game as REAL as possible. You’re trying, I’ll give you that! :)
- 11:10pmby LXS
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January 31, 2009
Damn, there REALLY needs to be an edit button! LoL That highlighting of mine messed up, ended up highlighting parts of what I said and what Joe said, oh well!?
- 11:12pmby LXS
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February 01, 2009
Man you took way too much of your time taking sentences out of context in each one of my posts. Good try on trying to make me look like I don’t know what I’m talking about though. Oh and to answer your question I am a civil engineer working in the nuclear field. What do you do?
- 01:05amby Joe
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February 01, 2009
How did I take things out of context? Did I lie? Did I make things up? Please, enlighten me! :) I didn’t “try” to make you look that way, you did that all on your own :) Oh and to answer your question, I work in a warehouse, and I’m also mechanic who specializes in Chevy and Ford, I’m a musician and teach various instruments, and I’m a 1/4 & 1/8th mile racer :) Sounds to me like we should just stick to what we know! :)
- 05:49amby LXS
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February 01, 2009
Funny I drag my 2008 R6 sounds like you really dont know how to judge people to well do you? And every statement that you pulled out of context was in reply to another question. Oh and there was no lying needed you just made up your own truths.
- 06:09amby Joe
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February 01, 2009
So, what does racing a bike have to do with judging people? Did I ever once say you knew nothing about racing? I never once said that you didnt’ know what you were talking about. I simply called you out on a lot of things, and you didn’t back it up. The only thing you did do was avoid what I said, and kept talking about how the Ram was superior. So what were these supposed “made up truths” you are referring to? I want you to point out at least one thing that isn’t true, or in your words, “my own truth.” Everything that I have said was based on cold hard facts! I’m not gonna try to tell you how to race your bike, don’t tell me how to race your car, we good? :)
- 06:44amby LXS
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February 01, 2009
Overall, I like to fact that they’re bringing a truck into the mix with a bunch of cars, but the only negative thing that I have to say is about the choice of the truck. Yes, I understand that you made a poll and say that whoever gets the most votes gets the win, but did you use your heads before you made the poll? This will give the dodge catagory 3 vehicles, to fords 1, chevys 2, and a pontiac? wow… pontiac… I’ll stay off that. Honestly, I think you should make more begining options. Like an SVT Focus, and a Cobolt SS. Even A 240SX, maybe a Mazdaspeed 3. Don’t get me wrong, I love the game, its the most addicting game I’ve played so far on myspace AND facebook, but I just think there should be a little more to the deciding that just throwing a dart at a board and saying… OK, Lets Make that one! :/ No offence intended, just a harmless opinion.
- 02:55pmby Stilz
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February 01, 2009
Good point Stilz! :)
- 06:17pmby LXS
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February 01, 2009
nice!!
- 09:43pmby Anonymous
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February 03, 2009
hey guys i just bought the srt10 truck and its pretty sweet sofar jw but are you goin to have more parts available for it anytime it kinda disapointed me a lil but over all its a good vehicale. i only bought it cuz i voted for it to win.
- 05:54amby john
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February 26, 2009
hey, i havnt played inawhile how do u get parking stalls?
- 06:58pmby sam
