March 26, 2009

good stuff

by Yuriy

March 26, 2009

if we don’t get any +vdi for accepting challenges, why should we put out something else than a saleen? that way we’ve the best chance to win a challenge and make money and (possibly, haven’t tried yet) +vdi. again. no more slow cars.

by svenson

March 26, 2009

Good point Sven, haha this VDI thing is hard to remain neutral to everyone and not leaning more to one side than the other =/

by Yuriy

March 26, 2009

the vdi system was ok before, except for the top 3 maybe.

by svenson

March 26, 2009

the problem w/ the top 3 running away from everyone else is that they’ll make the racing titles useless for those in the top 3 b/c they’ll always be at the highest no matter what titles we put out. which in effect takes all the fun out of the game

by Tony

March 26, 2009

that matters only for the top 3 then ;-)

by svenson

March 26, 2009

so i cant send track challenges until i get to that level? NO!!

by Tao Ding Ning Li (FB)

March 26, 2009

what is 6 challenges for refresh rate?

by Tao Ding Ning Li (FB)

March 26, 2009

i think you’re above that level already, tao. you’ll just need to run through those 4 levels to earn all titles you theoretically have today (=vdi).

by svenson

March 26, 2009

Tao, your such a dam noob! 6 instead of the 5 every few hours! omg how hard is it to understand?

by SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN

March 26, 2009

very

by lol

March 26, 2009

HAHAHA i don’t even get any +vdi in winning a received challenge. what kind of joke is that?

by svenson

March 26, 2009

just sent 5 challenges and got +30 vdi. are the other +30 added when the challengee accepts? (”... and instead double the VDI earned for sending challenges”)

by svenson

March 26, 2009

Sven…for a numbers guy, you seem to miss that 30 is doubled. 5×3=15, 5×6=30….

Also, I noticed that you still get VDI for accepting a challenge and winning as the underdog…

by Daniel- VDPD

March 26, 2009

back in the saleen for me :)

by luke van tuyl

March 26, 2009

wasn’t it 5×6 before already? maybe i miss some sleep lol

by svenson

March 26, 2009

i meant to say this seven wins ago… but, I GOT 1000 WINS :D (1007)

by shane

March 26, 2009

it was 5×3 previously

by Daniel- VDPD

March 26, 2009

i somehow like the idea of locking things up. Prevents newcomers buying 10+ collectables and own a saleen right away.

by Tao Ding Ning Li (FB)

March 26, 2009

congratulations to karson, you just raced against me in my 10’000th challenge.

by svenson

March 26, 2009

Wow, that’s a lot of races. I wonder if a real-world car could possibly race 10,000 races on one engine+chassis+any other replaceable part? Maybe we should implement those oil changes or something similar soon. hah.

by Cheechoo

March 26, 2009

Here’s a question: As long as there are Tier 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 cars for purchase, will there be a way to only challenge cars in your cars’ own tiers and drivers’ VDIs and above? It’s not fair to the noob, for example, when I click “random challenge” when driving my Elise and mostly only get results like a 200hp GTI with a VDI of 2 wheras I have an Elise with a 200% hp & weight advantage and a VDI of 3900+. They’re most likely not going to accept the challenge and I end up wasting a challenge. My Elise and 830hp Corvette have roughly the same track times (50-55 sec.) so why can’t I challenge other Corvettes (for example) in the “random challenge?” I could care less if a newbie with a Cooper S wants to challenge my ‘Vette but if I were new I wouldn’t want to be inundated with challenges from far superior cars. I think it would be a useful feature to even out the playing field.

OR am I just blowing smoke?

by Joel Porter

March 26, 2009

well put.

by luke

March 26, 2009

Glad to be of assistance Svenson! ( i should get a vdi bonus for that lol)

by Karson

March 26, 2009

still pointing out that I think this is a great idea, benefit the new users…they are what vdream needs to be kept afloat

by Scott Villeneuve

March 26, 2009

@Joel… that is actually a pretty good idea. I think the problems (if any) are that we don’t want newer users to be excluded from receiving challenges themselves. I think it might be a good idea to implement someway of losing vdi with inactivity in order to remove those people at the bottom of the list who simply won’t accept challenges. How do you feel about that idea?

by Josh Ferguson

March 26, 2009

There seems to be alot of inactive noob accounts. If the active noobs cant race upper level racers, and all their challenges go unaccepted, they too will become inactive!

by Troy

March 26, 2009

So one more thing that could help Joel, is that the random challenge will now pick according to the user’s racing title level +/-. So noobs won’t random be challenging people with higher vdi’s unless they directly challenge them through the friends page or leaderboard

by Tony

March 26, 2009

@josh, if that happens and the vdi is able to decrease, will you be able to drop levels? and if you do, do you loose the reward? or could you drop then raise your vdi constantly gaining a level up reward… forgive me if it doesnt make sense, i believe in a previous message someone said you’d recieve a vdollar reward when gaining levels…

by Patrick

March 27, 2009

1800 wins!!!!

by Patrick

March 27, 2009

@Luke, Josh, Troy, & Tony: first off, thanks for backing me up! Also, I’m not saying that a system should be put in place to purposefully exclude people because I don’t think that’s what vDream is about. But what I am suggesting is that there should be a “filter” of sorts that would allow the random challenge to match up comparable vehicles more efficiently. Case in point, happened to me today, the random challenge tool paired my Corvette against a Ram. No matter how you look at it, there’s no contest and I’m sure the owner of the Ram is just as ticked about all the Corvettes challenging him for easy wins as I am ticked about being paired up with vehicles that are not in the same class as mine. That is why I suggested initially that vDreamers can only challenge in their tier or above. This allows noobs to challenge whoever they want and keeps those of us “seasoned veterans” from taking advantage of noobs for easy wins. i.e. tier 1 can challenge 1, 2, 3, 4, & 5 (if they dare); tier 2 can only challenge 2, 3, 4, & 5 and so forth unless they are challenging a friend, etc. It doesn’t single anyone out and might actually make it easier for noobs to get going… knowing that when they first buy that 195 hp Integra they won’t be plagued with challenges from Elises. Does that make sense?

by Joel Porter

March 27, 2009

@ Tony & Patrick, I don’t think VDI should decrease due to inactivity unless you have the option of putting your account in an “inactive” mode or something when you plan on going away for vacation, away from comp, etc. Perhaps users who do not log in over the course of a week or so should automatically revert to an “inactive mode” and exclude them from random challenges? Or perhaps that’s too complicated? IDK… just an idea.

by Joel Porter

March 27, 2009

How the hell does one of the guys have an Evo pushing 700+HP?

by Me

March 27, 2009

“How the hell does one of the guys have an Evo pushing 700+HP?” Sent Cheechoo a message and I’m sure they will fix it.

And to Joel and all concerned… we are simply bouncing ideas back and forth at this point! Everyone’s input is certainly important and taken into consideration. The idea of subtracting vdi for inactivity isn’t to penalize someone for not getting to their computer but to rather get innactive users down to 0 vdi where they won’t show up in random challenge. That way you can challenge users with low vdi without having to worry about them not accepting.

by Josh Ferguson

March 27, 2009

Hey Joel, Thanks for your feedback, but my previous comment was indeed telling you that yes, the random challenge system will change and will be based on your racing title level. So don’t worry its set.

You will not lose VDI for not playing. And you would never go down in level ever. The bonus is a one time thing (per level)

by Tony

March 27, 2009

Get some free vDollars by taking the latest poll!

by Cheechoo

March 27, 2009

Since we start out a noob, can u still use a high tier car if u already own one?

by Keypper

March 27, 2009

I really really like the new VDI system. It was annoying not being in the top 50 because they were the ones always getting the challenges and just pulling away from the rest of us with no way to catch up. As far as inactivity goes, Personally i think it could go either way. If they are inactive, then they aren’t going to improve their VDI…so i a way it’s a penalty, but if you look at the top 3 to 5 people i believe they could be inactive for a while and not get passed…/shrug

by Clint

March 27, 2009

Oh, and the viper needs CF hood and doors…really just more carbon fiber in general >.<

by clint

March 27, 2009

Sounds good! I am perfectly satisfied with the way vDream is heading and I’m glad that my input is valued because, afterall, that’s just what it is… input! Looking forward to the 2.0 release!

BTW loved the latest poll… Ford the River FTW!!!

by Joel Porter

March 27, 2009

@ Clint… yeah definitely a fan of the new VDI system! I moved from a VDI of 650 ranked in the 590’s to a VDI of over 4000 and ranked in the 150’s seemingly overnight! Keep it comin!

by Joel Porter

March 27, 2009

@ Tony… Yeah after rereading the posts after I submitted my second and third I realized that I was a bit redundant in restating my concern and that you did tell me what will change! Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part!

by Joel Porter

March 27, 2009

the new vdi system makes using an elise out of the question since more than half of the challenges you send don’t get accepted. I’ve dropped at least 5 spots in the top 50. it also makes having more friends useless so it discourages people from telling other people about vdream. : (

by rebounder

March 27, 2009

i chose the s2k on the new poll, i think we need it… and of course you always caulk the wagon. of course the only reason i picked that may be cause im CAULKasian pahahahhaha i crack my self up

by jack

March 27, 2009

Grand National FTW!

by shane

March 28, 2009

@ “me” the guy who saw a 700 horse evo… im not a moderator, but ive heard this case before… if it was from a challenge or something, then the person challenged you with say a supra or something, but are currently in thier evo, so it has the supra stats, but shows an evo

by Patrick

March 28, 2009

@ Patrick: yeah I’ve seen something like that before on a friend’s garage. Her stats were for her maxed out GTI but picture was of her Elise.

by Joel Porter

March 28, 2009

Can you give us an estimate about the VDI that will be needed to unlock certain parts? Or certain levels?

by Andrew Chiang

March 28, 2009

andrew, whats the fun in that lol

by Scott Villeneuve

March 28, 2009

the vdi levels will be announced w/ the release of 2.0

thanks!

can we also move this discussion to our forums? its easier for us to track, and easier to get everyone’s input in one area.

and i don’t see how the new system discourages you from having more friends. the endurance race is still friend level based.

by Tony

March 28, 2009

on vacation . will only be accepting challenges. so send me some challenges!

by tao

March 28, 2009

kiss the leaderboard buhbye hahaha

by jack

March 29, 2009

Well I just saw another Evo pushing 750 HP.

I used to know that car switch used to be a problem but I think they might have fixed that already. Cause I’ve went on the leaderboard and searched their names to check out their garage and the stats for the Evo itself was showing that they were in fact pushing 750 HP.

And each time I switch to my Evo thinking they released new engine parts.

So this is the second time I’ve seen an Evo in the 700’s.

by Me

March 29, 2009

well thats interesting….

hey, can i make a request?? i hope it doesnt set off people, but i think it’d be a little more realistic if the higher your vdi, the better the times you’d get. It makes sense, since when you start out, you dont have much experience, but the more you play, the more “driving experience” you recieve, and as a result, you should know the track lines better, so you’d have slightly better times

by Patrick

March 29, 2009

Well Patrick, that would help the top guns, who are already out of reach.

by Troy

March 29, 2009

BTW. Giving more challenges to those with high VDI (combined with only getting VDI for sending challenges) will also stretch out their lead.

by Troy

March 29, 2009

hey, can i make a request?? i hope it doesnt set off people, but i think it’d be a little more realistic if the higher your vdi, the better the times you’d get. It makes sense, since when you start out, you dont have much experience, but the more you play, the more “driving experience” you recieve, and as a result, you should know the track lines better, so you’d have slightly better times

That’s already been done in another racing app.

by Juwan(run from my 2 tone Elise)

March 29, 2009

@me…. why don’t you post in the forums so we can actually process the complaint with a name. Its impossible to do anything when we don’t have the person’s name or your name to work with. The issue is that they managed to install the turbo’s twice and ended up with 750hp.

by Josh Ferguson

March 29, 2009

@ Troy, it is fair though…because it is a benefit to those who use the game more

by Scott Villeneuve (one of those out of reach guys)

March 29, 2009

hahahaha scott

it doesnt help them too much, just use common sense! dont challenge the higher vdi guys

by Patrick

March 30, 2009

i have a QUESTION…does our MONEY RESET?? or nahh?

by Converse

March 30, 2009

Converse ummmm not unless you make a purchase and basically drain your account, I have had 3 time where I had exactly $1

by Scott Villeneuve

March 30, 2009

You might as well drain your account right now. After 2.0 it’s gonna be awhile before you can get those cars… lol.

Anyone has any suggestion how 1M should be spent?

and Scott one day i’m going to catch you on the leaderboard =D

by Daniel Hsu

March 31, 2009

well yea, i will retire one day….and also when i go on vacation for a week I MAY get passed so there are chances for those who are on the leaderboard. But daniel, i was referring to the noobs who complain about how ppl have over 10000 vdi’s

by Scott Villeneuve (yet again one of those out of reach guys)

March 31, 2009

lol Scott just to spite them we should create something like an “out-of-reach” club for people >10000VDI’s. That’d be mean… =[

by Daniel Hsu (maybe I'm one of those subtly out of reach people too)

March 31, 2009

by Daniel Hsu (maybe I’m one of those subtly out of reach people too)

how many spots r u behind me

by Scott Villeneuve

March 31, 2009

in “all racer” section I’m 2 behind you (not counting the mods, yay)

but it’s still gonna be a pretty long while before i can catch up

by Daniel Hsu

March 31, 2009

:)

by Scott again...sorry for spamming up the boards Villeneuve